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RE: Some general comments from Lotus.
~Dean Brefanaman 1.Oct.02 10:41 PM a Web browser
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I appreciate your response! First, let me say that we are negotiating with IBM now to host a 'remote site' launch here in Baton Rouge, so, yes, you will 'see' me at one.

You raise excellent points. I reviewed the beta, and found many if not all of my concerns very adequately reflected by other people. (more on this below.)

The bigger issue is that IBM appears to be involved in a long-term effort to 'harmonize' it's product line. This is a valid thing for IBM to be doing. DB2 for data storage, WebSphere for high performance & adaptable web apps/services, Tivoli for management, and Lotus for Collaboration.

As a techie with a Marketing/Business degree, I think that it's something that IBM has to do in order to present a clear marketing and direction message to large clients. The reason that I see an issue with this in my Notes/Domino developer role is that the 'classic Notes/Domino' doesn't fit this model. It can do most, if not all of the DB2, WebSphere and Lotus roles mentioned above.

This puts the Notes/Domino that we're used to in conflict with the clear organizational direction IBM is taking.

And I don't think any amount of Beta comments would change that, or the impact that this conflict will have on what Domino becomes.

Let me clear about this: R6, er, v6, er ,Domino 6 is an excellent product that appears very solid and reliable. And we will use it, resell it, support it, and enjoy it.

But it doesn't change the long term direction that the roadmap lays out. There's a reason that Next Gen enters the highway from the WebSphere side on the 'roadmap to the future' graphic.

It will be very hard to sell WebSphere into SMB accounts, which is what we have here, mostly. It's a hard enough sell explaining what Notes/Domino is in the current release, much less explaining what it will become as it moves down the roadmap.




REVISED: Where is Domino going? (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . Good question - however... (~Lorraine Umkit... 1.Oct.02)
. . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (~Zach Xankroplo... 1.Oct.02)
. . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (~Maria Dworesal... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . I find Domino/Notes ideal for SMB (~Vera Quethipip... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: I find Domino/Notes ideal for S... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . So what do you think... (~Vera Quethipip... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: So what do you think... (Placeh... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . *Stop trolling. It is getting old. ... (~Yentl Quetkrot... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: troll troll go away (if you clo... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . *It is OK to be worried, but this i... (~Yentl Quetkrot... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: *It is OK to be worried, but th... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . sorry, why not? (~Mario Cislugon... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * LOL - sorry, why not? eom> (~Lex Ekweberg 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: sorry, why not? (~Dean Brefanama... 2.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: troll troll go away ... hide un... (~Patti Dwoavitc... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . *I don't realize any such thing. eo... (~Yentl Quetkrot... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: I don't realize any such thing.... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: I don't realize any such thing.... (~Delores Dwonic... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: I don't realize any such thing.... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . OK, here you go (~Yentl Quetkrot... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: *I don't realize any such thing... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: *I don't realize any such thing... (~Delores Dwonic... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . *I don't realize any such thing. (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Man, I don't believe this... (~Dan Elhipister... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . For the record... re: Man, I don't ... (~Naomi Deskrote... 2.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: *I don't realize any such thing... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . interesting... to me the IBM Softwa... (~Lisa Lopresach... 14.Oct.02)
. . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (~Hank Nimtumipl... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (~Delores Dwonic... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . Some general comments from Lotus. (~Mario Cislugon... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: Some general comments from Lotu... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: Some general comments from Lotu... (~Holly Minjipyb... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: Some general comments from Lotu... (~Richard Rerebu... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . interesting... (~Lisa Lopresach... 14.Oct.02)
. . RE: You might ask: What's the point... (~Carol Bubtooze... 2.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: You might ask: What's the point... (~Frank Oplumare... 2.Oct.02)
. . . . I got the same impression from Lotu... (~Hal Xanjumitex... 4.Oct.02)


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