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RE: Domino VS. Websphere
~Phil Zengerovitchetsi 19.Dec.02 10:25 PM a Web browser
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Thanks for your answers.

But still this all makes me think.

I still do not understand, why Domino should be good for unstructured content. I understand why DB2 is good for structured data.

I believe that Domino is a hierarchical data structure which can somehow be freely structured during the application development.

But neither Domino nor DB2 seem to be object oriented nor XML oriented. They can store XML, but they don't provide the XML structure of unstructured or semi-structured freestyle XML.
Dominos fundamental data structure is somehow outdated, because you can't have nested elements (objects in objects in objects), which would probably make it much cooler...

Anyway, you might be right that one needs to choose the storage for each application, but as an e-business you have structured data, unstructured data, semi-structured data, hierarchical data, semantic data, etc. And as an e-business you don't want to run more than 3 tiers. View, Business Logic, Storage.

Anyway, to come back, if your are running a e-business you want to have your applications dealing with textbased/markupbased languages such as XML, xHTML, XSL, etc. You don't want to see software such as the Domino Designer. Yes, I have heard of the Eclipse plugin, which I hope will bring Web-development to Domino, but still I am not sure, if Domino is realy keeping up with the times. It seems to be stuck in the past. Websphere is developing at a much faster pace compared to Domino which still must support outdated propietary technology such as the Notes client...

Hmm, I still get the feeling that Websphere is ahead of time, while Domino is laid back.

IBM can deal with structured data (Websphere) and hierarchical/flat data (Domino), but still IBM is missing the whole area of unstructure data (have a look at content management systems, and you'll see that comparing Domino to ZOPE or Vignette or Interwoven or MS Content Management Server or Obtree - no sorry, Domino is not a content management system in this sense).

Anyway, we want Java, XML, Persistence, Linux and open standards ;-> and preferably one system that covers it all. Make IT powerful, but make it easy.

By the way, the Domino agents and security model is cool, to say something nice about it.

For the time being I hope I can switch to Websphere and render the web interface with Struts and in the background connect to the Domino DB's.

;->
Best regards,
Marky




Domino VS. Websphere (~Phil Zengerovi... 19.Dec.02)
. . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Justin Minlute... 19.Dec.02)
. . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Zelda Desniche... 19.Dec.02)
. . . . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Phil Zengerovi... 19.Dec.02)
. . . . . . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Chloe Fezreplo... 19.Dec.02)
. . . . . . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Justin Minlute... 19.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Maria Dworesal... 20.Dec.02)
. . Have you read the Developer's Roadm... (~Lisa Lopresach... 19.Dec.02)
. . . . RE: Have you read the Developer's R... (~Phil Zengerovi... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . I disagree with this (~Yentl Quetkrot... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: I disagree with this (~Phil Zengerovi... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . By the way, WAS is not an html serv... (~Anita Minaster... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: By the way, WAS is not an html ... (~Naomi Deskrote... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . depends on the performance needed (~Anita Minaster... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I don't disagree, but... re: depend... (~Naomi Deskrote... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: I disagree with this (~Naomi Deskrote... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . :) eom> (~Dan Nimponekon... 21.Dec.02)
. . . . . . Huh? Are you kidding? (~Naomi Deskrote... 20.Dec.02)
. . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Phil Zengerovi... 20.Dec.02)


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