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Huh? Are you kidding?
~Naomi Deskroterakol 20.Dec.02 03:21 PM a Web browser
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and the Lotus CEO left to Groove...)

Which Lotus CEO is that? The founder of Groove Networks is Ray Ozzie, who has
never been CEO of Lotus.

They wanted to build Tomcat into Domino 6 - this project seems to have failed.

Incorrect. This project was largely successful, as a number of people in this
forum discovered during the beta cycle. It was pulled from the final product
due to strategic conflicts with the Websphere line, and a desire by IBM not to
mix messages for their customers.

There are a number of ways to integrate Tomcat with Domino. See
www.openntf.org for more information.

All they delivered was a Websphere license.

Domino's JSP library and single-sign on didn't happen then?

Lotusphere in January might be their last chance!

Last chance for what?

You will learn about MVC/Struts, XML, XSL, OO, HTML, Beans, etc. Those are not just buzzwords, those are fundamental architectural shifts.

XML & XSL have virtually nothing to do with Websphere. Domino's handling of
XML/XSLT is considerably simpler and more effective than just about any other
web platform. HTML is not a "fundamental architectural shift." I'm curious
why you think Websphere is somehow more OO than Domino, since
object-orientation is a development style more than a platform choice
(sticklers will point to Lotuscript's lack of polymorphism -- get over it.)
"Beans" are the epitome of a buzzword.

In one word: if Domino wants to keep up, it needs much stronger ties to jakarta.apache.org, xml.apache.org, Websphere, Eclipse, etc.

That's 21 words. I take it math isn't your strong suit.

It also means that Lotus must employ much younger engineers.

Younger engineers? Perhaps they could pick up all those superstars from the
failed .coms, notorious for having young engineers.

The other side (Eclipse) can learn from Domino: simple rapid application development, security, agents, etc.

There's not a system on the planet that can't take a lesson from Domino's speed
of development and security.

Hmm, I will switch my focus to Websphere for the time being, trying to include Domino through the Java API.

Hey, if you want to triple your development time and quadruple your costs, more
power to you.




Domino VS. Websphere (~Phil Zengerovi... 19.Dec.02)
. . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Justin Minlute... 19.Dec.02)
. . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Zelda Desniche... 19.Dec.02)
. . . . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Phil Zengerovi... 19.Dec.02)
. . . . . . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Chloe Fezreplo... 19.Dec.02)
. . . . . . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Justin Minlute... 19.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Maria Dworesal... 20.Dec.02)
. . Have you read the Developer's Roadm... (~Lisa Lopresach... 19.Dec.02)
. . . . RE: Have you read the Developer's R... (~Phil Zengerovi... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . I disagree with this (~Yentl Quetkrot... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: I disagree with this (~Phil Zengerovi... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . By the way, WAS is not an html serv... (~Anita Minaster... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: By the way, WAS is not an html ... (~Naomi Deskrote... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . depends on the performance needed (~Anita Minaster... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I don't disagree, but... re: depend... (~Naomi Deskrote... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: I disagree with this (~Naomi Deskrote... 20.Dec.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . :) eom> (~Dan Nimponekon... 21.Dec.02)
. . . . . . Huh? Are you kidding? (~Naomi Deskrote... 20.Dec.02)
. . RE: Domino VS. Websphere (~Phil Zengerovi... 20.Dec.02)


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