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RE: IBM: Huh? What's Dominoe?
~Dean Brefanaman 1.Oct.02 01:48 PM a Web browser
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>> What does .NET has to do with Notes/Domino???
>> Those are two completely different products?

Respectfully, you don't appear to have a clue about what you're talking about.
.NET and J2EE are competing technologies that are attempting to create/define the next enterprise development & deployment model.
IBM has decided that it'll be more profitable to merge Notes/Domino into the WebSphere world(rather than take an excellent product and grow it).
This direction is clear from the road map and from the LotusSphere 2002 opening ceremony (yes, I was there).

Notes/Domino WILL become a collection of J2EE 'services'. They will, of course, work 'best' with WebSphere.

Why am I learning .NET? Because WebSphere is an amazingly complicated set of products (a brand, not an individual product) that is far far too expensive for the SMB market I work in.

.NET is much cheaper, easier to deploy, easier to find excellent development examples for, and the development environment is just beautiful.

Yes, we will get some nice improvements (and R6, er, v6 is certainly sweet), but overall direction is clear, and saddening.

[Summary]
I love Notes/Domino. It's the Swiss Army knife of development. I can make it do just about anything, easily. It turns on a dime. The object store is a dream - unlike other relational databases, it can reflect the ugly reality we live in where every record isn't identical. And R6, er v6 is a very nice improvement.
The reality is that IBM has too many products and has decided to focus on the homegrown WebSphere borg. And WebSphere gives IBM a compelling story to tell large, enterprise-level customers.
It just doesn't sound compelling to SMB shops that don't have legions of wirehead developers.
IBM has consistently shown a glaring lack of skill in designing and marketing it's products for SMB customers. Understand that Microsoft is ALL over designing & marketing it's products to SMB.
Make no mistake - IBM is feeding, but not growing Notes/Domino. This is the part of the lifecycle where a vendor can really make some money. And IBM isn't a charity - it's a business.




IBM: Huh? What's Dominoe? (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . RE: IBM: Huh? What's Dominoe? (~Maria Feztumit... 1.Oct.02)
. . Disagree (~Lily Dwoalying... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . Yep ... .NET is hyped ages before t... (~Vera Quethipip... 1.Oct.02)
. . RE: IBM: Huh? What's Dominoe? (~Vera Quethipip... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: IBM: Huh? What's Dominoe? (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . I see your point (~Vera Quethipip... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . Re:I see your point (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: IBM: Huh? What's Dominoe? (~Zach Xankroplo... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: IBM: Huh? What's Dominoe? (~Evelyn Opkikon... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . Craig, a line of thought for you...... (~Naomi Deskrote... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . Very nice article ... and so true e... (~Vera Quethipip... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . A Very Nice Article, indeed, except... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: A Very Nice Article, indeed, ex... (~Vera Quethipip... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . Thanks.... re: A Very Nice Article,... (~Naomi Deskrote... 1.Oct.02)
. . AGREE 100% (~Wei Asatooster... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: AGREE 100% (~Chloe Nongerol... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . IBM: Let's milk this cash domino co... (~Dana Chulumarf... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . Historically SMB??? IBM: Let's milk... (~Hal Reresakony... 17.Oct.02)
. . . . AGREE 1000% (~Hank Nimtumipl... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: AGREE 1000% (~Delores Dwonic... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . Don't forget Daimler Chrysler. eom>... (~Dan Elhipister... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: Don't forget Daimler Chrysler. (~Autumn Nimrevi... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . What "real industry" people are you... (~Dan Elhipister... 1.Oct.02)
. . *It hasn't been officially launched... (~Yentl Quetkrot... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: *It hasn't been officially laun... (~Dean Brefanama... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: *It hasn't been officially laun... (~Sarah Ekjipyth... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: *It hasn't been officially laun... (~Vera Zekgeroge... 1.Oct.02)
. . on ibm.com homepage today (~Mario Cislugon... 2.Oct.02)


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